Reference Library: Beatles 78 RPM Records
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Beatles on 78 rpm
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 17:38:09 GMT
Scott Broe wrote:
I'm hoping somebody can fill me in on these records. I heard that
Parlophone in India printed some of the earlier singles on 78's. Does
anyone know which ones? What their serial numbers are? How rare are they
if rare at all? If I do manage to find some, what should I expect to pay?
Am I insane for even looking for these things?
Tony Cole [tcole@tor.hookup.net] wrote:
There were recently many comments on if there were Beatles records on 78
rpm. I recently saw 2 of them in London. Both were on Parlophone,... one
was 'Rock & Roll Music', and the other ' I Saw Her Standing There'.
The cost? 600 pounds each.
bratcher@worldnet.att.net (Robert M. Bratcher Jr.) wrote:
Here is an old E-mail I got from 78-L about the Parlophone
Beatles 78's!
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The Beatles on 78!
by Anthony G Pavick
By the mid 1960s the 78rpm record had become a scratchy memory in the
world of recorded music. The tenacity of this format in some markets
however resulted in some of the most unusual and unexpected releases ever.
Great Britain's EMI records continued to issue 78s in India until at least
1965, legend has it due to the preponderance of wind-up phonographs there.
Among those are 7 releases by the Beatles on Parlophone. The earliest of
these featured a red Parlophone label.
The discography of the Beatles' Indian 78s is:
Parlophone ONLY:
DPE 167 If I Fell / And I Love Her
R 5200 I Feel Fine / She's a Woman
DPE 172 Tell Me Why / I'll Cry Instead
DPE 180 I'll Follow the Sun / Words of Love
R 5305 Help! / I'm Down
R 5389 We Can Work it Out / Day Tripper
DPE 187 Michelle / You Won't See Me
The DPE prefix releases are different couplings than that of the
standard Parlophone UK issues.
Each record has an individual value of US$400, while a set of all of
them, if you can find one, would set you back US$3,000.
Rumour has it that similar releases occurred in South Africa through
EMI-Brigadiers, possibly of "She Loves You" and "I Want to Hold Your
Hand". Surely such a discovery would be a treat!
The Beatles did record a 78 rpm acetate of Buddy Holly's "That'll Be
the Day" backed with an original Paul McCartney / George Harrison
composition "In Spite of All Danger" in 1958. This recording took place
at (Percy) Phillips Sound Recording Service at 38 Kensington in Liverpool.
The original cost of this 78 was 17s 6d (88 p in decimal currency or about
US$1.30), its current value is incalculable as Paul McCartney owns the
only copy, and he isn't selling.
McCartney did have several reproductions of this acetate prepared in
both 10 inch 78rpm format and 7 inch 45 rpm format a few years ago at EMI.
He went so far as to accurately reproduce not only the label, but also the
acetate's physical material, a feat that had EMI hunting high and low.
These copies are now safely locked away....somewhere.
you@somehost.somedomain (Jan Pettersson) wrote:
I have followed the thread about the 78s from India and would like to make a
little contribution. I've read that about 30 Beatles 78s were released in
India. I donīt know if this is true but I have this list of 78s from India.
There are some of the 78s that have unique combinations of songs and some of
them are "ordinary" 45rpm 7" transferred to 12" 78s. They were released as
78s up to at least 1968. I have seen some of these FS and the prices are
$1000-$1400. The "book" value are approx. $400. The ones I have seen were in
the 12" format and not in the more common 10" and they were in a plain greyish
cardboard covers. I donīt know if this is the case with all of them. I can
only recommend these records to a rich completist or a collector with very
good Indian contacts. The Beatles did sell quite well in India (according to a
friend with Indian relatives) and I donīt think that they are this expensive
in India.
The list:
(I donīt know if this is complete. There are probably more of them.)
Dizzy miss lizzy Parlophone DPE183
Girl Parlophone DPE188
Help Parlophone R5305
Here, there and everywhere Parlophone DPE189
Hey Jude Parlophone DPE190
I feel fine Parlophone R5200
I saw her standing there Parlophone DPE159
If I fell Parlophone DPE167
Iīm a loser Parlophone DPE178
Long tall Sally Parlophone DPE164
Michelle Parlophone DPE186
Michelle Parlophone DPE187
Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da Parlophone DPE192
Please, please me Parlophone ?
Rock and roll music Parlophone DPE179
Tell me why Parlophone DPE172
Words of love Parlophone DPE180
Yesterday Parlophone DPE184
You like me to much Parlophone DPE185
Marc Hendel [MarcHendel@worldnet.att.net] wrote:
According to a recent book on collecting original UK pressings,
the Indian pressings not only exist, but supposedly there were 30 or so
different titles issued! The story goes (the author appears very
knowledgable on all aspects of the UK pressings) that when Parlophone
decided in March of 1963 that they would stop producing 78's, they
dismantled the machines and sent them to India, of all places. The
demand for 78's still existed there since the records could be played on
phonographs that did not require electricity and most Indians didn't
have electricity. Beginning in the summer of 1964, the Indian branch of
Parlophone not only pressed the 45 rpm format of Beatles singles, but
also released identical issues on 78 format. Some unique singles were
issued in this format, such as You Like Me Too Much/Tell Me What You
See, I'll Follow the Sun/Words of Love and Good Day Sunshine/Here, There
and Everywhere. From the story relayed above, one might conclude that
these 78's are more common than we think. Is anyone out there from India?
Hope that this helps clear up this interesting side bar to the UK pressings.
Marc
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