Reference Library: Beatles Before Capitol
From: egweimi@aol.com (EgwEimi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Vee Jay & Swan Beatles
Date: 19 Feb 1995 15:38:37 -0500
THE BEATLES B.C. -- Before Capitol
Beatles records in the United States are predominantly found on the Capitol
(or Apple) label. But people often post to r.m.b. asking about records,
such as Introducing the Beatles, which were released by companies other
than Capitol/Apple. In these articles, I will attempt to discuss the
history of Beatles recordings in the US which predate their Capitol
contract. Known variations of those records will be listed, along with
their approximate values. A lot of people have been asking about these
records.
The first Beatles record released anywhere was "My Bonnie" and "The
Saints," with the Beatles backing Tony Sheridan. This German record
(Polydor NH 24-673) was issued in two forms (with a German intro or an
English intro) and with a picture sleeve. Tony became popular in Germany
through this recording and became known as "Mr. Twist." "My Bonnie" was
Tony's first record and his break into the record industry.
As many people on r.m.b. know, the word "Beatles" was considered difficult
to interpret by Germans, so Polydor billed the artist as Tony Sheridan and
the Beat Brothers (June 1961). From that point on, Tony's band was known
as the Beat Brothers, which caused some confusion to later Beatles fans.
In January of 1962, Beatles manager Brian Epstein began negotiating with
Polydor to release "My Bonnie" in England. Because of his negotiations,
the UK "My Bonnie" release (Polydor NH 66-833) showed the artist as "Tony
Sheridan and the Beatles." The record sold modestly, apparently well
enough to consider releasing it in America.
Decca Records in the US was responsible for issuing most of Polydor's
Deutche Grammophon series records, of which "My Bonnie" was one. Therefore,
it was Decca who released the first Beatles record in the US, credited to
Tony Sheridan and the Beat Brothers (Decca 31382). Actually, the word
"released" has to be used loosely. It can be verified that promotional
copies were sent out, but since there are so few copies of the commercial
single in existence (about a dozen), it is generally believed that these
were scrapped in production due to poor airplay of the promo single. This
single is the "English intro" version and dates to April, 1962.
My Bonnie/The Saints Decca 31382 NM value: $1250
pink label (promo). NOTE: This record has been counterfeited.
Original copies have the matrix number stamped into the trail-off
by machine. All copies with My Bonnie on both sides are fakes.
My Bonnie/The Saints Decca 31382 value: $5000+
black label with "DECCA" at left and rainbow at right. This
single can be found with or without print in the rainbow. While
rainbow print copies are fewer in number, the overall rarity of the
single makes differentiating their values impossible. This record
has been counterfeited. Originals must have the rainbow at right
and should have the matrix number stamped into the trail-off
by machine. All copies with all-black labels are fakes.
Although the Beatles had a (suspicious) top 20 hit in the UK with "Love Me
Do," EMI affiliates outside England were reluctant to pick up the single.
The US affiliate, Capitol records, declined to issue the single. When it
came time for the Beatles second single to be issued, Capitol again passed
on their opportunity to issue Beatles records. Vee Jay Records, a
Chicago-based record label known mainly for gospel and R&B (and the Four
Seasons), picked up the Beatles US contract. Record released Feb 25, 1963.
"Please Please Me"/"Ask Me Why" promo copies were sent out, garnering some
airplay. The single was issued (Vee Jay 498). Promo copies and the
commercial copies misspelled the group's name "Beattles." The single was
available all the way through 1963, and later copies corrected this
mistake.
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
white label with grey rim. Label reads "Disc Jockey Advance
sample" and "NOT FOR SALE." The Vee Jay logo appears
in an oval with a treble clef, henceforth called the "oval logo".
Artist shown as THE BEATTLES value: $700-$750
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
black label with color band. Oval logo. Artist shown
as THE BEATTLES. On this issue, the authors' credits
use up almost as much space as "PLEASE PLEASE ME."
value: $700-$800
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
black label with color band. Oval logo. Artist shown
as THE BEATTLES. On this issue, the authors' credits
are much smaller than the song title "PLEASE PLEASE ME."
value: $600-$650
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
black label with color band. Oval logo. Artist shown
as THE BEATTLES. On this issue, the record number
is shown as # 498 instead of "VJ 498" like the preceding
three records. value: $800
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
black label with color band. Oval logo. Artist's name
correct. On this issue, the titles are not in bold face.
The record number is shown as # 498. The publishers'
credits are in all CAPITALS. value: $800-$900
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
black label with color band. Oval logo. Artist shown
as THE BEATLES. On this issue, the authors' credits
are much smaller than the song title "PLEASE PLEASE ME."
value: $600-$700
Please Please Me/Ask Me Why Vee Jay 498
black label with color band. The company logo is
a set of brackets surrounding the letters VJ and the
words "VEE JAY RECORDS." This is called the
"brackets logo." The artist's name is correct, and the
authors' credits are much smaller than the song title.
Issued in late 1963. value: $1000
Unfortunately for Vee Jay, "Please Please Me" failed to chart in the USA.
There had been some airplay and spotted sales, but this could not match the
#1 status of the single in England. A few months later, the time came to
issue the Beatles' third single, "From Me To You," which of course went to
#1 in England. In fact, the single was already a hit in England by the
time it was issued in America on May 27, 1963. This time, there had been
more airplay, and sales prospects were more promising.
From Me to You/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 522
white label with grey rim. Label reads "Disc Jockey Advance
sample" and "NOT FOR SALE." Oval label. value: $400
From Me to You/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 522
black label with color band. Oval logo. The title is in bold
face print. value: $200
From Me to You/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 522
black label with color band. Oval logo. The title is not in
bold face print. Note: the O's in the titles are circular on
this issue. value: $250
From Me to You/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 522
black label with color band. Brackets logo. The title is
in bold face print. These copies are from late 1963.
value: $250
From Me to You/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 522
black label with two horizontal silver bars. NO color band.
Brackets logo. Issued in late 1963. value: $350-$400
The "From Me to You" single bubbled under the Hot 100, but never quite
caught on in America. Still, Vee Jay decided to go ahead and issue the
Beatles first album, which had been available since March in the UK.
Apparently since "Please Please Me" was NOT a #1 single in the USA, Vee Jay
retitled the album Introducing the Beatles. In an unusual move, Vee Jay
removed "Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" from the album, meaning that
none of the songs on the l.p. had been issued previously in the USA. None
were available as singles. The album included the songs "Love Me Do" and
"PS I Love You," which were later to cause Vee Jay some considerable grief,
since they were issued before Vee Jay was contracted to release Beatles
records. The album was supposedly issued on July 22, 1963. In reality,
although copies may have been pressed early on, the album was not released
until mid-fall of 1963. The use of the two songs was already in dispute,
which may have been the reason that the cover does not list any of the
songs.
Introducing the Beatles VJLP 1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue pictures twenty five "other
fine albums of significant interest" by other Vee Jay artists
such as Jimmy Reed. Black label with color band. Oval logo.
The front cover has "Printed in U.S.A." in the lower left hand
corner. Has "Love Me Do" and "PS I Love You."
value: $1000-$1250
Introducing the Beatles VJSR 1062 (stereo)
The back cover to this issue pictures twenty five "other
fine albums of significant interest" by other Vee Jay artists
such as Jimmy Reed. Black label with color band. Oval logo.
The front cover has "Printed in U.S.A." in the lower left hand
corner. Has "Love Me Do" and "PS I Love You." This is a
stereo record and PLAYS IN STEREO. The label reads
STEREO either at the top or on the side. Any copy claiming
to be stereo which does not play in stereo is a fake. Any
copy claiming to be stereo which does not say stereo on the
label is a fake. value: $2500+
Introducing the Beatles VJLP 1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue is glossy white and is
blank. It may have been a transitional issue. It has often
been called a promotional issue, although there is no print
indicating this. Black label with color band. Oval logo.
Has "Love Me Do" and "PS I Love You." Issued late in
1963. value: $700
Introducing the Beatles VJSR 1062 (stereo)
The back cover to this issue is glossy white and is
blank. It may have been a transitional issue. It has often
been called a promotional issue, although there is no print
indicating this. Black label with color band. Oval logo.
Has "Love Me Do" and "PS I Love You." This is a
stereo record and PLAYS IN STEREO. The label reads
STEREO either at the top or on the side. Any copy claiming
to be stereo which does not play in stereo is a fake. Any
copy claiming to be stereo which does not say stereo on the
label is a fake. value: $1500
Introducing the Beatles VJLP 1062 (mono)
The back cover to this, the final "original" issue lists
the song titles in two columns. "Love Me Do" and "PS I
Love You" are listed and are featured on the album. Black
label with color band. Oval logo. Issued in late 1963
or early 1964. value: $150-$175
Introducing the Beatles VJLP 1062 (mono)
The back cover to this, the final "original" issue lists
the song titles in two columns. "Love Me Do" and "PS I
Love You" are listed and are featured on the album. Black
label with color band. Brackets logo. Issued in late 1963
or early 1964. value: $250-$275
THIS ALBUM HAS BEEN RUMORED TO EXIST IN STEREO. MANY COUNTERFEIT COPIES
HAVE CIRCULATED OF THIS ALBUM IN STEREO. If there are genuine copies of
this album in stereo, they must say STEREO on the label and must play in
stereo. The cover must also indicate stereo.
The album, Introducing the Beatles, had also failed to chart, although it
had been issued in various ways. It is said that Vee Jay had not paid
the copyright on its two singles. This may have been the reason why Vee
Jay was not chosen to issue the Beatles fourth single in the US. OR, it
may be that Vee Jay chosed to "pass" on the newest Beatles single. For
whatever reason, Vee Jay cannot be faulted for not having tried. The
fourth Beatles single was sent to the even-smaller Swan label, where it
was issued a few weeks after the UK single. Swan Records was best known
for Freddy Cannon, whose most well-known hit was "Tallahassee Lassie."
For a time, all Swan records carried the words "Don't Drop Out," which
were a message to American teens to stay in school. Record issued Sept.
16, 1963.
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
glossy white label with black print. An "X" appears on
the label. The label reads "PROMOTION COPY NOT
FOR SALE." The song title as written is s p r e a d o u t
and does NOT appear in quotation marks. The words
"Don't Drop Out" do NOT appear on the label.
value: $300
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
glossy white label with red print. The song title as
written is s p r e a d o u t and does NOT appear in
quotation marks. The words "Don't Drop Out" do NOT
appear on the label. value: $250-$275
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
flat white label with red print. The song title appears
in quotation marks. The words "Don't Drop Out" do NOT
appear on the label. value: $275-$300
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
glossy white label with black print. The song title
and artist name are in thin capital letters. An 'X' appears
on the a-side. The words "PROMOTION COPY"
appear on the label. The words "DON'T DROP OUT"
also appear on the label. value: $250
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
glossy white label with red print. The song title
and artist name are in thin capital letters. The
words "DON'T DROP OUT" appear on the label.
value: $350-$375
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
glossy white label with blue print. The song title
and artist name are in thin capital letters. The
words "DON'T DROP OUT" appear on the label.
value: $300
The Swan singles have been widely counterfeited. Original copies should
have the master number stamped into the trail-off by machine along with the
words "MASTERING RECO-ART PHILA." OR the words Virtue Studios should be
etched into the trail-off. Any copies with bubbles in the vinyl or with
pock marked or blurred labels are fakes.
By the time it came to issue the Beatles fifth single, Capitol was ready
for them. The company issued an extensive promotional campaign, allegedly
spending $50,000 in the N.Y.C. area alone. "The Beatles are coming" was
plastered everywhere, a la Paul Revere's proclamation "The British are
coming!" And they came with force. At once, Vee Jay records reissued its
Introducing the Beatles album, this time with the more acceptable "Please
Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" in the place of "Love Me Do" and "PS I Love
You." Vee Jay was by no means out of legal trouble, however. The album
was reissued on January 17, 1964.
Introducing the Beatles (second issue) Vee Jay VJLP-1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. Black label with color band. Oval logo.
value: $175
Introducing the Beatles (second issue) Vee Jay VJSR-1062 (stereo)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. Black label with color band. Oval logo. The cover
may indicate "stereo" by means of a banner across the top (part
of the cover), or by a sticker added to a mono cover, or by means
of machine stamped gold print on the cover. This is a stereo
record and PLAYS IN STEREO. The label reads STEREO either
at the top or on the side. In addition, the matrix number in the
trail-off has an "S" suffix. Any copy claiming to be stereo which
does not play in stereo is a fake. Any copy claiming to be stereo
which does not say stereo on the label is a fake.
value: $750-$800
white stereo sticker: +$50
sticker reading "stereo stereo stereo" (vertically): +$65
copies with gold stamping by machine: +$75
Introducing the Beatles (second issue) Vee Jay VJLP-1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. Black label with color band. Brackets logo.
value: $90
Introducing the Beatles (second issue) Vee Jay VJSR-1062 (stereo)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. Black label with color band. Brackets logo. The cover
may indicate "stereo" by means of a banner across the top (part
of the cover), or by a sticker added to a mono cover, or by means
of machine stamped gold print on the cover. This is a stereo
record and PLAYS IN STEREO. The label reads STEREO either
at the top or on the side. In addition, the matrix number in the
trail-off has an "S" suffix. Any copy claiming to be stereo which
does not play in stereo is a fake. Any copy claiming to be stereo
which does not say stereo on the label is a fake.
value: $650
(same values for cover stampings)
The album began to sell, becoming a hot item. Vee Jay is said to have run
out of its regular labels and to have contracted out for others to press
their records using whatever labels they would make. This is not
necessarily true, but it is a good explanation of the various single and
l.p. variations that came about.
Introducing the Beatles Vee Jay VJLP-1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. All black label. Logo is simply "VJ" underneath
which "VEE-JAY RECORDS" is written (in two lines).
value: $125
Introducing the Beatles (second issue) Vee Jay VJSR-1062 (stereo)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. All black label. Logo is simply "VJ" underneath
which VEE-JAY RECORDS is written (in two lines). The cover
may indicate "stereo" by means of a banner across the top (part
of the cover), or by a sticker added to a mono cover, or by means
of machine stamped gold print on the cover. This is a stereo
record and PLAYS IN STEREO. The label reads STEREO either
at the side. In addition, the matrix number in the trail-off has
an "S" suffix. Any copy claiming to be stereo which does not
play in stereo is a fake. Any copy claiming to be stereo
which does not say stereo on the label is a fake.
value: $750
Introducing the Beatles Vee Jay VJLP-1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. All black label. No color band. Oval logo.
value: $175
Introducing the Beatles Vee Jay VJLP-1062 (mono)
The back cover to this issue lists the song titles in two columns.
"Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" are listed and are featured
on the album. All black label. No color band. Small brackets
logo. Any copies with large brackets labels are later fakes.
value: $250-$300
The Introducing the Beatles album was faked many times, as early as the
late '60's. Many of these fakes claim to be stereo. Many of these fakes
have the Love Me Do song title on the back. Some copies have brown
borders surrounding the regular cover. NO original has this border. On
some fakes, George does not have a shadow on the front cover; he has one
on the originals. Some fakes have color band labels which are not well
centered. Original color band labels are well-centered.
The album wound up being a hot seller for Vee Jay, being kept from the top
spot on the charts by other Beatles records.
At about this time, the "She Loves You" single was given a second pressing
by Swan Records. This time, all possible efforts were taken to make the
record a hit, including the addition of a picture sleeve.
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
Flat white label with black print. Two "X's" appear on the
A-side of the label. The label reads "PROMOTION COPY"
and "NOT FOR SALE." The song title appears in quotation
marks. The words "Don't Drop Out" do NOT appear on
the label. The a-side publishing credit appears in 2 lines.
value: $300
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
Black label with silver print. The song title appears in
quotation marks. "DON'T DROP OUT" appears on the label.
The a-side publishing credit appears in 2 lines.
value: $25
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
Black label with silver print. The song title appears in
quotation marks. The words "Don't Drop Out" do NOT
appear on the label. The a-side publishing credit appears
in 3 lines. Some of these labels appear dark green.
value: $30
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152 PICTURE SLEEVE
This picture sleeve has been counterfeited. The counter-
feit's picture lacks the quality of the original. Also, some
counterfeits have perforated edges. Not so with the original.
value: $50
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
Black label with silver print. The song title does not appear
in quotation marks. The words "DON'T DROP OUT" DO
appear on the label. The a-side publishing credit appears
in 2 lines, but "(BMI)" alone is the second line. The
song titles appear s p r e a d o u t. "Produced by George
Martin" appears under "THE BEATLES."
value: $40
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
Black label with silver print. The song title appears
in quotation marks. "DON'T DROP OUT" appears on the
label. The a-side publishing credit appears in 2 lines.
"Produced By George Martin" appears at right.
value: $40
She Loves You/I'll Get You Swan 4152
Black label with silver print. The song title and
artist name are in thin capital letters. The words
"DON'T DROP OUT" appear on the label.
value: $40
These singles were counterfeited. See the note in part one of this
article on distinguishing an original from a fake.
Swan also issued four different varieties of a one- sided promotional
single featuring "I'll Get You." These were all white label with black
print. The value of each is between $300 and $350 in NM condition.
The reissued Swan single hit number one. Meanwhile, Vee Jay was wishing
to reissue its two singles...as 'back to back hits.' They too were not
taking any chances. Promotional copes were sent out with a special
sleeve, and a picture sleeve featuring the Introducing the Beatles cover
photo was prepared for the new single, "Please Please Me"/"From Me to
You." The single was issued on Jan 30, 1964.
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
white label with 4 blue crossbars. Label features two
brackets logos. The words "PROMOTION COPY" appear
twice on the label. value: $225-$250
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
Blue and white TITLE SLEEVE for promo record.
This is known as "the record that started Beatlemania"
sleeve because that line is written across the top of the
sleeve. Sleeve advertises the upcoming appearance by
the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show. Extremely rare.
value:$1200-$1500
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
black label with color band. Oval logo. May have
VJ in front of the record number. value: $20
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
PICTURE SLEEVE for commercial copies. Top
of sleeve is cut straight. This sleeve has been faked.
The photo on many fakes is blurry.
value: $200
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
black label with color band. Brackets logo. May have
VJ in front of the record number. value: $25
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
All black label; no color band. Oval logo.
value: $35
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
All black label; no color band. Brackets logo.
value: $40
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
All black label; no color band. Logo is simply
"VJ" with the words "VEE-JAY RECORDS" written
underneath. value: $40
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
All black label; no color band. Label simply
reads "VEE JAY" across the top. value: $35
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
All black label with 2 silver crossbars. Brackets
logo. value: $30
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
Yellow label with black print. Logo is simply
"VJ" with the words "VEE-JAY RECORDS" written
underneath. value: $40-$50
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
White label with black print. Logo is simply
"VJ" with the words "VEE-JAY RECORDS" written
underneath. value: $100
Please Please Me/From Me to You Vee Jay 581
All purple label. Brackets logo. value: $150
The new "Please Please Me" single charted in the top 5, kept out of #1 by
other Beatles singles.
Vee Jay also thought of another way to capitalize off its two Beatles
singles, including them on an album of STUDIO recordings by one of the
label's other artists. Frank Ifield is best known for his version of "I
Remember You." Since "From Me to You" and "Thank You Girl" had not yet
been mixed for stereo, the songs appear in mono on the stereo album. This
was the only US appearance of "From Me to You" on an album until 1973.
This album was issued on Feb. 26, 1964.
Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJLP 1085 (mono)
Cover features the drawing of a man with glasses,
a moustache, and a Beatle haircut. May be found
with oval, brackets, or all black "VJ" label styles.
All three are of equal value. value: $125
Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJSR 1085 (stereo)
Cover features the drawing of a man with glasses,
a moustache, and a Beatle haircut. May be found
with oval, brackets, or all black "VJ" label styles.
All three are of equal value. This is a stereo album; "Please
Please Me," "Ask Me Why," and the Ifield songs should
PLAY IN STEREO. Also, the album should say stereo on
the label. value: $250
The above two albums are also called "Jolly What!" because these words
appear at the top of the front cover. The albums have been counterfeited.
All originals should have printing on the spine and should otherwise
resemble other Vee Jay albums. The album was reissued with artwork from
the "Love Me Do" US picture sleeve. Either this later issue was withdrawn
or it did not sell. Both mono and stereo issues are rare.
Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJLP 1085 (mono)
Cover features a drawing of the four Beatles and lists
the four Beatles songs featured on the album. All
label styles are equally valuable, as with the earlier issue.
value: $1250
Beatles and Frank Ifield On Stage Vee Jay VJSR 1085 (stereo)
Cover features a drawing of the four Beatles and lists
the four Beatles songs featured on the album. May be found
with oval, brackets, or all black "VJ" label styles.
All three are of equal value. This is a stereo album; "Please
Please Me," "Ask Me Why," and the Ifield songs should
PLAY IN STEREO. Also, the album should say stereo on
the label. value: $4000+
While the Ifield/Beatles album was not popular, Vee Jay Records kept right
on issuing Beatles singles. On its new "Tollie" subsidiary, Vee Jay
issued a chart topper: "Twist and Shout"/"There's a Place." The single
came out on Mar 2, 1964. There are at least a dozen label variations of
this single, mostly on yellow labels, although an all black style
exists. There are five different Tollie logos used on those labels,
including one with Tollie in brackets! The most common singles are
valued at $25, while the rarest go for $50. No genuine picture sleeve
was ever issued for this single. The single has been counterfeited at
least two times. The vinyl of the fakes is usually somewhat pocked
marked. I refer you to Perry Cox's Beatles Price Guide for more details.
On Mar 23, 1964, Vee Jay issued its next "new" Beatles single: "Do You
Want to Know a Secret"/"Thank You Girl," accompanied by a picture sleeve
featuring a drawing of the Beatles' heads. This drawing was to be re-used
twice.
Do You Want to Know a Secret?/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 587
white label with 4 blue crossbars. Brackets logo appears
twice. 'PROMOTIONAL COPY' appears twice.
value: $200
Do You Want to Know a Secret?/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 587
PICTURE SLEEVE for commercial copies.
value: $40-$50
Do You Want to Know a Secret?/Thank You Girl Vee Jay 587
The following label styles are known:
black label with color band; oval logo ($25)
black label with color band; brackets logo ($20)
all black label; oval logo ($40)
all black label; brackets logo ($40)
all black label; "VJ" with "VEE-JAY RECORDS" under it ($40)
all black label; "VEE JAY" at top of label ($35)
black label with silver crossbars; brackets logo ($30)
yellow label; "VJ" with "VEE-JAY RECORDS" under it ($40-$50)
Vee Jay was having success issuing new l.p.'s and singles, so it tried its
hand with an e.p., also very successfully. The e.p. was offered with a
potato chip promotion as well; because of this, it was not charted. But
this is by far the Beatles' best selling EP in the USA.
Souvenir of Their First Visit to America Vee Jay VJEP-1-903
white label with 4 blue crossbars. Two brackets logos.
label features 'PROMOTIONAL COPY' twice. These early
copies featured all four songs in the same size print. No
cover for most promos. value: $225-$250
Souvenir of Their First Visit to America Vee Jay VJEP-1-903
white label with 4 blue crossbars. Two brackets logos.
label features 'PROMOTIONAL COPY' twice. Some
copies feature "ASK ME WHY" in larger print. There are at
least 2 varieties of this promo. No cover for most promos.
value: $200
Souvenir of Their First Visit to America Vee Jay VJEP-1-903
promo title sleeve. While most promos were issued without
covers and some came in the regular cover (similar to the PS
for VJ 587), a few promos were issued a special title sleeve
promoting "Ask Me Why." The sleeve calls the EP "the EP
that is selling like a single." Fewer than 5 copies are known
to exist of this rare item. value: $3000+
Souvenir of Their First Visit to America Vee Jay VJEP-1-903
commercial copies may be found in 6 label styles. The
cover is composed of hard cardboard, not paper or posterboard.
Copies with the color band label (oval or brackets logo) are
worth $75 and $100, respectively. Other label styles are
worth about $125-$150.
Next, Vee Jay issued promo copies of an "Ask Me Why"/"Anna" single. No
copies were ever commercially released.
Ask Me Why/Anna Vee Jay "Spec. DJ No. 8"
white label with 4 blue crossbars. Two brackets logos on
label. Label reads "PROMOTIONAL COPY" twice.
Fewer than 5 known copies. value: $5500+
Having great success reissuing old material, Vee Jay tried again on April
27th, reissuing "Love Me Do" and "PS I Love You." Although Vee Jay had
lawsuits against them, they continued to press new records furiously. And
again they had great success: another hit.
Love Me Do/PS I Love You Tollie 9008
white label with black print. Logo is simply the words
"TOLLIE RECORDS" at the top of the label. Label reads
"PROMOTIONAL COPY" and "NOT FOR SALE." Fake
promo labels with inferior print are known to exist.
value: $200
Love Me Do/PS I Love You Tollie 9008
white label with black print. Logo features Tollie
Records in a rectangular box. Label reads "Disc
Jockey Advance Sample" and "NOT FOR SALE."
value: $250
Love Me Do/PS I Love You Tollie 9008
commercial copies. Can be found in at least 5 varieties,
with 3 different logo styles. Each falls in the $25-$40 range.
Love Me Do/PS I Love You Tollie 9008
PICTURE SLEEVE. value: $50
By this time, the Beatles Second Album, featuring both sides of the She
Loves You single, was topping the charts. Swan Records' single was
selling, and they apparently had the rights to issue the German version of
the song, which the Beatles had recorded just before coming to America.
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with black print. Song title on one line:
"SIE LIEBT DICH (SHE LOVES YOU)".
Two "X's" appear on the label. The words "PROMOTION
COPY" appear on the label. value: $250
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with black print. Subtitle on a second
line in smaller print. An "X" appears on the label.
The words 'PROMOTIONAL COPY' appear on the
label. value: $200
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with black print. Subtitle on a second
line. Title and artist name are in thin capital letters.
An 'X' appears on the label. The words "PROMOTION
COPY" appear on the label. value: $200
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with red print. Song title on one line:
"SIE LIEBT DICH (SHE LOVES YOU)". value: $60-$75
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with red print. Subtitle on a second
line in smaller print. value: $35-50
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with orange print. Subtitle on a second
line in smaller print. value: $60
Sie Liebt Dich/I'll Get You Swan 4182
white label with red print. Subtitle on a second
line. Title and artist name are in thin capital letters.
value: $50
All "Sie Liebt Dich" singles have DON'T DROP OUT on the label. The single
just made it into the top 100, not bad for a foreign language record.
A few months went by without any activity from Vee Jay. In 1964, Vee Jay
Records was under fire. They had issued Beatles records, including "Love
Me Do" with wild abandon. Capitol Records won a lawsuit against them, but
that didn't seem to stop Vee Jay. They were told not to issue any more
new Beatles records. So they issued some old ones!
Do You Want to Know a Secret?/Thank You Girl Oldies 149
Please Please Me/From Me to You Oldies 150
Love Me Do/PS I Love You Oldies 151
Twist and Shout/There's a Place Oldies 152
All issued August 10, 1964. red label with white Oldies logo.
Some counterfeits exist with black Oldies logos. Issued in
standard black and red "Oldies 45" sleeves.
value each: $10
On Aug. 12, 1964, Vee Jay issued an "old" Beatles album, which was a
reissue of Introducing the Beatles. This album was moderately successful
due to its also being sold at Beatles concerts. Albums with Beatles
concert banner stickers on them are worth $40-$50 more. The album cover
featured the photo from the "I Want to Hold Your Hand" picture sleeve and
the four drawings from the VJ 587 picture sleeve.
Songs, Pictures, and Stories of the Fabulous Beatles
Vee Jay VJLP 1092 (mono)
gatefold cover. Known fakes have no gatefold. Label styles:
black label with color band; oval logo. ($150)
black label with color band; brackets logo ($75-$120)
all black label with "VJ" ($100-$125)
all black label with oval logo ($150-$175)
All labels bear the original title of the album.
Songs, Pictures, and Stories of the Fabulous Beatles
Vee Jay VJLPS 1092 (stereo)
gatefold cover. Known fakes have no gatefold. Label styles:
black label with color band; oval logo. ($1250+)
black label with color band; brackets logo ($1200)
all black label with "VJ" ($1250+)
All labels bear the original title of the album. Most
covers say 'stereo' at the top. If the cover has sticker saying
"stereo," add about $50. These records PLAY IN STEREO
and say STEREO on the label. Any copies claiming to be
stereo which do not pass these tests are fakes.
On Oct. 1, 1964, Vee Jay packaged its Introducing the Beatles album
together with The Golden Hits of the Four Seasons. It called the
collection "The Beatles Vs. The Four Seasons." The front cover featured
new drawings of the Beatles and the Four Seasons, plus listings of all the
songs. The back cover featured a 'scorecard'. The album was issued with
a poster which featured the drawings of the Beatles from the VJ 587
picture sleeve.
Beatles vs. The Four Seasons Vee Jay VJDX-30 (mono)
black labels with color band; brackets logo. The labels
list the original titles of the albums.
value: $300-$500
Beatles vs. The Four Seasons Vee Jay VJDXS-30 (stereo)
black labels with color band; brackets logo. The labels
list the original titles of the albums. The cover and the
record labels say stereo, and the albums play in stereo.
value: $1500
Beatles vs. The Four Seasons poster--value: $150
Vee Jay also issued a promotional album featuring interviews with the
Beatles and John Lennon. The album was issued commercially and was quite
a success.
Hear the Beatles Tell All Vee Jay PRO-202
white label with blue print. Label reads "Promotional"
and "Not For Sale." Only 2 known copies exist.
value: $5000+
Hear the Beatles Tell All Vee Jay PRO-202
black label with color band. Brackets logo.
value: $125-$150
Note: the above album was faked throughout the 1970's. The fakes
generally had larger print than the originals. In 1979, Vee Jay reissued
the album in stereo; originals were mono. Vee Jay has also issued a
shaped picture disc of the album (1987). This album was Vee Jay's last
ditch effort at the Beatles market. It proved to be the only album that
Capitol could not control. Capitol quickly countered with:
Beatles Story Capitol TBO-2222 (mono)
Two records in fold-open cover. Interviews. black
rainbow label. No print in color band. Info stating
"a subsidiary of Capitol Industries..." does NOT appear
on the label. value: $75-$85
Beatles Story Capitol STBO-2222 (stereo)
Two records in fold-open cover. Interviews. black
rainbow label. No print in color band. Info stating
"a subsidiary of Capitol Industries..." does NOT appear
on the label. value: $60
This was not the last issue of the Vee Jay material in the US. When
Capitol finally gained control, they issued:
The Early Beatles Capitol T-2309 (mono)
black rainbow label. No print in color band. Information
stating "a subsidiary of Capitol Industries..." does NOT
appear on the label. value: $50-$60
The mono album does NOT feature the mono versions of
the songs. The songs on this album are reduced from
stereo.
The Early Beatles Capitol ST-2309 (stereo)
black rainbow label. No print in color band. Information
stating "a subsidiary of Capitol Industries..." does NOT
appear on the label. value: $50
This was essentially the Vee Jay album, with "Misery" and "There's a
Place" missing. Later in 1965, Capitol issued:
Twist and Shout/There's a Place Capitol Starline 6061
Love Me Do/PS I Love You Capitol Starline 6062
Please Please Me/From Me to You Capitol Starline 6063
Do You Want to Know a Secret?/Thank You Girl Capitol Starline 6064
These and two other Starline singles issued in Oct. 1965
had green swirl labels. Value of each: $50-$65
This was the full set of Oldies singles issued by Vee Jay.
Twenty years later, Capitol reissued "Twist and Shout"/"There's a
Place" in stereo, in association with the film Ferris Bueller's Day
Off, in which the a-side was featured. The single nearly made
it into the top 20.
Twist and Shout/There's a Place Capitol PB-5624
white label promo. value: $12
Twist and Shout/There's a Place Capitol B-5624
black rainbow label value: $3
This was reissued on the 'new purple label' in 1987.
Some may mention that I have omitted the MGM release of "My Bonnie." This
belongs in a different article, along with the other 2 MGM
Beatles/Sheridan songs and the 4 Sheridan/ Beatles songs issued by Atco.
The colorful association of the Beatles with Vee Jay is what often
confuses the collector/fan. If Beatles fans complain that the EMI
affiliates cannibalized the Beatles' records, no one did a better and more
successful job at that than Vee Jay. Deprived of their chance for success
before Beatlemania, they got every dime out of the Beatles in the year
that followed.
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